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Mk 8:17a ... And having known he says to them, ... "Why are you discussing that you do not have loaves?"

Verse 17 has four phrases and 19 words. The first two phrases have these 4 narrator and 6 dialog words ... Kai gnous legei autous, Ti dialogizesthe hoti artous ouk exete (And having known he says to them, ... "Why are you discussing that loaves not do you have?").

Diagram 1: The 4 narrator and 6 dialog words are top down. The diagram shows 36 radius sized vesicas represent the twelve disciples. There is only one loaf of bread in the boat and not a single disciple is holding it. The 4 words "Ti artous ouk exete" (Why do you not have loaves?) are only tangent to a single loaf of bread. There seems to be no room in the boat for 6 dialog words plus an extra loaf much less a basket filled with 16 loaves. So why are the disciples discussing about loaves? At first the discussion seems to be foolish, but actually it is a geometry challenge to the reader to get the basket of loaves inside the boat with the 12 disciples.

Diagram 2: These gospel parables contain a number of gematria riddles. In this riddle, the top two circles hold four disciples made from twelve radius vesicas. Each disciples is made from 3 vesicas. Diagram 1 showed each of the three bottom circles have four empty spaces. When the 12 vesicas from the top two circles move into the bottom three circles there is now room for all twelve disciples, a basket of 16 loaves, plus a single loaf of bread to link everything together.

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